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1. plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:33:18 UTC plant boy

   • keverets

   @keverets I just checked and it's not as expensive as I thought it was, but definitely a lot more than if I just bought another used thinkpad. the big question is: can I use a laptop that doesn't have the little nub mouse? the touch pad looks nice but it's still a touch pad.

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:38:57 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @keverets @cwebber you like your librem 13 right? I know you have one semi-large complaint about it but it's only when using full disk encryption, right?

   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:44:27 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • keverets

     @dthompson @keverets So, I have a previous generation of the librem 13

     Pros:
     - works amazingly as a laptop-on-the-go
     - no-blobs
     - works with guixsd out of the box

     Cons:
     - only one external monitor at a time (fixed? dunno)
     - full disk decryption seems slow from GRUB... but it's also slow from my thinkpad, so
     - But sometimes it just wouldn't decrypt/boot!
     - Worst problem is it froze up once a day, compounding other issue

     But Ricardo doesn't have these problems, and I never sent it in :\

   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:46:14 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • keverets

     @dthompson @keverets It really was the freezing once a day problem that was what was killing my productivity and left me temporarily back on the Thinkpad. Again, I think it was a hardware issue *specific to my laptop*, but I was in conversations with tech support and they asked me to try a few things and I just never got around to it so I still haven't sent it in.

     I doubt others are having the freezing problem, so... I *would* recommend it; I *loved* it otherwise. But you asked, so...

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:46:51 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @cwebber @keverets do you happen to have one of those "librem key"s? I am interested in using that for TOTP and boot protection stuff.

   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:47:46 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • keverets

     @dthompson @keverets nope, came out after I got my model. If I ordered a new one (probably would if I didn't just burn a bunch of money on a house) I'd do that this time. I might still get one anyway.

     I do think Purism are doing great work and I do want to support them.

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:49:10 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @cwebber @keverets well, I think the Librem 13 + Librem Key is a frontrunner for the new laptop. I think I will really miss not having a trackpoint and docking station, though.

   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:52:06 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • keverets

     @dthompson @keverets I actually found I didn't miss those as much as I thought! It really doesn't take too long to plug in a few cables if you add cable mounts to your desk. Use the binder clip trick: https://lifehacker.com/attach-cables-to-the-edge-of-your-desk-with-binder-clip-1346783211

     Plus, less overheating-on-the-dock scenarios :P

   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:55:27 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • keverets

     @dthompson @keverets about multiple external monitors, looks like the best chance of finding a solution is here: https://forums.puri.sm/t/please-recommend-a-port-replicator-docking-station/1115/15

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 20:56:58 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @cwebber @keverets oh my x220 totally overheated on the dock a couple times

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Monday, 29-Apr-2019 21:10:30 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @cwebber @keverets fwiw I only use a single external monitor but like some sort of dock for cable management, but I suppose the binder clip works.

   • Mike Gerwitz (mikegerwitz)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2019 02:33:30 UTC Mike Gerwitz

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber
     @dthompson They demoed the PureBoot process at LibrePlanet, using the key, and it looks great. I have a Nitrokey Pro---which is all their key is, plus the extra LED---and they said it'd work with that.
     
     I asked them two years ago at LP if they'd consider adding Trackpoint, and it wasn't something they were going to do at the time. That's going to be a major disappointment for me as well. But there are keyboards that have it built in (of course that doesn't help on the go).
     
     @cwebber did you ever get a chance to find/use a USB-C dock?
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   • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2019 02:39:59 UTC Christopher Lemmer Webber

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     • Mike Gerwitz

     @mikegerwitz @dthompson I did find such a dock but it didn't enable a second external monitor (graphics card limitation I think) which is what I really wanted it for so I didn't really use it.

   • plant boy (dthompson)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2019 11:46:27 UTC plant boy

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     • Christopher Lemmer Webber

     @mikegerwitz @cwebber how much did your nitrokey cost? the librem key doesn't have U2F support and that is leaning me towards nitrokey but since they aren't a US company I'm concerned it will cost a lot more.

   • Mike Gerwitz (mikegerwitz)'s status on Thursday, 02-May-2019 02:20:26 UTC Mike Gerwitz

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     @dthompson I bought it more than a couple years ago, so I don't recall what I paid back then, but I thought it was >=60USD. The current Nitrokey Pro 2 price is ~54USD.
     
     Absolutely worth it, though. I use it every day for SSH, signing email, commit signing, decrypting personal files, and some other things.
     
     The U2F one is ~25USD, but it's not a smart card.
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