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  1. Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Nov-2017 22:59:16 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
    • Mayel
    • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
    @banjofox @mayel how does #Fedibook differ from #Diaspora, #Hubzilla, #Friendica, #NextCloud and all the other projects with similar goals?
    Wednesday, 08-Nov-2017 22:59:16 UTC from quitter.se permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:18:26 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • rysiek ✅
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox @rysiek #Diaspora is compatible with #Friendica and #Hubzilla, although they reverse-engineered the #DIaspora protocol to get this
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:18:26 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:19:26 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox I guess I'm asking why start a totally new project, instead of adding the features you want to one (or more) of the existing ones?
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:19:26 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:21:00 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox there's a consensus emerging that full compatibility will be achieved by moving protocol support into shared modules ...
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:21:00 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:22:34 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox like a Ruby gem that supports any federation protocol via plugins. Or the Federation library in Python
      http://qttr.at/1zsf
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:22:34 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:23:33 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox language choice is a totally valid reason for a new project :) A Rust module/ library for federation protocols would be great!
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:23:33 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:24:27 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox true, but that was due to the #Diaspora protocol specs being under-documented, having only been used internally up to then
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:24:27 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:27:43 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox awesome! Look forward to testing #FediBook when you've got an alpha ready :)
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 01:27:43 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:23:24 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @banjofox have you looked into #ActivityPub or #Zot @fla ?
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:23:24 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:35:19 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @fla @zatnosk @banjofox a bicycle and a monster truck can use the same roading protocol. A bike, being smaller, can be accepted more places
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:35:19 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:36:27 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox the truck, being larger and heavier, can carry more stuff, and climb rougher terrain.
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:36:27 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:37:00 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox different destinations, different carrying capacities, common carrier. Does that make sense?
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:37:00 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:39:22 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox an app defines an API for each data type, connecting to the module, and plugins translate for different protocols
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:39:22 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:43:52 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox protocols used in parallel, so every available service is covered by at least one of the protocols, maximum peering
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:43:52 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:46:47 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox sorry it's late. Rambling incoherent shower thoughts. Others can explain the proposition better (@deadsuperhero?)
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 10:46:47 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:04:54 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @fla @zatnosk @banjofox the difference is that email is a discrete and finite set of functions (send, receive, attachments etc)
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:04:54 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:05:10 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox you can't have multi-function client X, and expect all functions to work with all contacts, unless they all use X
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:05:10 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:09:09 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox yes, good #UX requires that clients are able to signal to users when a contact can and can't use a service
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:09:09 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:10:29 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox but imagine if you couldn't add a new function to any client until you added them in all clients. This is unworkable
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:10:29 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:16:09 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @fla @zatnosk @banjofox most of the #fediverse / #federation clients now support more than one protocol. I'm not sure exactly how they do it
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:16:09 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:16:44 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @fla @zatnosk @banjofox most of the #fediverse / #federation clients now support more than one protocol. I'm not sure exactly how they do it
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:16:44 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:24:38 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Eugen
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Maiyannah Bishop
      • Fla
      • Mike Macgirvin
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox maybe ask @maiyannah or @gargron or @mike how multi-protocol support works?
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:24:38 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:28:13 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @fla @zatnosk @banjofox "I hate this branch thing" you can't have or follow meaningful conversations without preserving a sequence of posts
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:28:13 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:29:14 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox the inability of most #fediverse / #federation clients to preserve continuity between posts is a major #UX fail IMHO
      Thursday, 09-Nov-2017 21:29:14 UTC permalink
    • Maiyannah Bishop (maiyannah)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:12:41 UTC Maiyannah Bishop Maiyannah Bishop
      in reply to
      • Eugen
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • Mike Macgirvin
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @strypey @zatnosk @gargron @fla @mike @banjofox Short answer: "very poorly"

      The thing with Mastodon is that it doesn't follow either standard (OStatus or ActivityPub) particularly well.
      Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:12:41 UTC permalink
    • Maiyannah Bishop (maiyannah)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:13:50 UTC Maiyannah Bishop Maiyannah Bishop
      in reply to
      • Eugen
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Maiyannah Bishop
      • Fla
      • Mike Macgirvin
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @gargron @strypey @fla @mike @banjofox As far as doing multiple protocols within postActiv, they're just modules.  You can enable one or more and that's the language your instance speaks.  Right now postActiv just has OStatus.  I have an experimental Diaspora module but it's not tested well enough I'd feel comfy putting it in production.  I know someone is working on something for the Friendica thing too.
      Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:13:50 UTC permalink
      Nobody [LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1)] likes this.
    • Maiyannah Bishop (maiyannah)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:18:27 UTC Maiyannah Bishop Maiyannah Bishop
      in reply to
      • Eugen
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Maiyannah Bishop
      • Fla
      • Mike Macgirvin
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @gargron @strypey @fla @mike @banjofox As far as federating messages outwardly, I need to tighten up version detection of instances but it basically looks at what software your instance is running if its not postActiv, and makes an assumption based on that (OStatus for StatusNet/GNU social/Pleroma/Mastodon, Diaspora for Diaspora, etc).  postActiv will have (when these changes are done and pushed to the repo) an option to set which federation module is the "native" one and the internal representations are set accordingly and there is an endpoint postActiv uses to identify this for external instances or clients.
      Friday, 10-Nov-2017 03:18:27 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2017 05:28:48 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox @zatnosk @fla you could open some Issues, but why GITHub? Why not, say, a Discourse instance
      Friday, 10-Nov-2017 05:28:48 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Friday, 10-Nov-2017 05:33:33 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      For example, the #Diaspora team run their own instance of #Discourse. Here's one run by #Disroot.org
      http://qttr.at/1ztn
      Friday, 10-Nov-2017 05:33:33 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:18:31 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @banjofox @zatnosk @fla I don't understand. Do you want to run your own #Discourse instance? Or move this discussion to an existing one?
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:18:31 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:20:15 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox sorry I might have been better to ask clarifying questions when you brought up GITHub ;)
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:20:15 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:21:51 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox are you already using GitHub for #FediBook dev and wanting to document this discussion there for reference?
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:21:51 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:24:56 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox some of us prefer to avoid #GitHub due to the chunks of code they refuse to liberate
      http://qttr.at/1zvb
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:24:56 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:27:29 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      in reply to
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      • Fla
      • BanjoFox - Fearless Leader
      @zatnosk @fla @banjofox that's why I thought of moving the discussion to Diaspora's forum, or setting one up on Disroot (both use Discourse)
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 00:27:29 UTC permalink
    • Danyl Strype (strypey)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 04:44:56 UTC Danyl Strype Danyl Strype
      • Aggrönosk 🌋🚷
      @zatnosk sure, apologies for tofu ;-P
      Saturday, 11-Nov-2017 04:44:56 UTC permalink

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